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The scarlet letter

Abortion laws seek only to intimidate, shame

Forum Columnist

Published: Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 03:11

Recently, the Oklahoma Legislature passed two very strict abortion laws, House Bill 1878 and HB 1595, that went into effect Nov. 1. Each of these laws is meant to reduce the number of abortions in this state.


Although many — both anti-abortion and abortion rights — want to see that happen, these laws could cost too much personal freedom in the end.


HB 1878 requires women to have intravaginal ultrasounds narrated by doctors before they have abortions. This procedure is incredibly invasive and unnecessary before having an abortion.


HB 1595 requires women and their doctors to fill out a lengthy survey, which includes questions about relationships, race and how the pregnancy occurred.


This information is then posted on a Web site.


Although the legislation does not require information such as names and addresses, there is enough information that those living in small towns in Oklahoma could identify their neighbors on the site.


Today’s column is not an anti-abortion/abortion rights debate. Instead, I am giving space to four people — liberal and conservative — who oppose all or portions of these laws because of their invasive nature. When requested, I have kept sources anonymous.


Karen Sisk is a Ph.D. student in creative writing. She received her M.A. in English literature at Wright State.

 

First of all, I think the survey itself — from what I’ve read about it — is fine.


I think it makes sense to ask about a woman’s race, education and reason for seeking an abortion. I think it makes sense only because, in the future, Oklahoma might want to find ways to help those women.


For instance, if we find out that there are high numbers of rapes in white communities in Oklahoma and that these women then seek abortions, perhaps we can find public programs to change that.


Or, if we find out that these women don’t have access to contraception and seek an abortion for that reason, perhaps Oklahoma could help change that, as well.


However, to post that information online is appalling — with or without someone’s name attached. In that case, you’re not trying to help these women; you’re only trying to make them feel guilt regarding their decision. Letting them know that information will be on a state-run, public Web site is just a masked deterrent. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.


Furthermore, the ultrasound mandate is despicable. Again, that mandate is only centered on inducing guilt and inducing women to feel bad about their decisions. Women who are having an abortion would not do so lightly, and, even if they did — which, in my mind, is impossible — it’s not the government’s job to pose those types of sanctions.


Right now, abortion is legal. Thus, it is acceptable in our country, and we should respect women’s rights to have enough knowledge about themselves to consider whether they want to make this significant decision about their body. By forcing women to look at an ultrasound, there’s an assumption that they don’t understand what they’re doing — that someone else has to show them.


If this were a case of incest, should the government be allowed to psychologically torture a victim in this way? It’s absurd, and immoral.


An ultrasound is just another sneaky tactic to force women to feel the guilt others think they should. And, whether Oklahoma legislators like it, this decision isn’t one that they can put their own morals on without causing outrage.


— Anonymous

 

Although I usually stay out of the abortion debate, my opinion is slightly for abortion rights. I believe that HB 1595 is a “Scarlet Letter” law intended to intimidate women into not getting an abortion.


This law is clearly not designed to provide information for research or education. It’s likely that the detailed information published could make it possible for some to identify the individual, potentially leading to one being harassed, ostracized or even harmed.


With all of the attention given to medical privacy, how could something like this be written into law? It’s quite disappointing to see anti-abortion legislators resort to strong-arm tactics like this.


— Scott, junior majoring in sociology and computer science

 

I think this law is an example of what makes Oklahoma a laughing stock around the country. Women have come too far to be discriminated against and threatened when they get a medical procedure.


It is nobody’s business except the woman and the doctor. Although I would find it funny if they made the woman show what church she and her parents belong to. Would Oklahomans support that? Would they just lie about their church to not embarrass it?


If you want to lower abortion rates, educate about sex and protection.


— Eric Martin, economics 2007 graduate, currently in New York City
 

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10 comments

Meg
Thu Nov 5 2009 23:23
The statement that over 80% of women who have abortions suffer depression or remorse is simply a lie. The most common emotion reported after abortion is relief that the whole thing is over (see Guttmacher Institute for this). Honestly, if you can't make a good argument against abortion without lying (abortion causes breast cancer! women will be depressed!) or using inflated rhetoric (babies! murder! mothers!), or both (like the post at 15:25 on Nov 4) maybe you should take a good look at why you are opposed to it.
Patriot
Wed Nov 4 2009 23:43
For those who claim to fear government intrusion into private lives, fear this: the rape-by-machine of women by the state, in the pursuit of righting a "wrong" that has not even been performed. For those who worry that the government hopes to punish "thought crime"--say, with the passage of hate crime legislation--worry that the state of Oklahoma would punish a woman with forced penetration for so much as seriously considering abortion.

Or are women not quite "private" enough to merit such concerns? Public property, are they? And not quite important enough, politically or otherwise, for their thoughts to count?

Lynn
Wed Nov 4 2009 18:28
I am against this bill but do not understand how a woman in a small town could be identified. The survey only asks for name of county in which abortion is PERFORMED; it does not ask for the county in which the woman lives. The only abortion clinics in OK are in very populous counties (OKC, Norman and Tulsa). So how could we identify any woman when those counties are so populous?
Megan
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:45
Karen Sisk is right!
It's not about pro-choice or pro-life, it's about legislation that is anti-woman!
Anonymous
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:44
I don't think how comparatively invasive the procedures are is the question. What is wrong, however, is that with this law, the government is able to force a woman to have a procedure done even if it's against her will.

Since when is it OK for a government to force a medical procedure on a person? Even though the ultrasound may be a common procedure for pregnant women, it is unnecessary for a woman having an abortion. It is a tactic to make a woman change her mind about what is likely to be the biggest decision of her life. And just because "Call it what is it, BABY MURDER" may think it's the wrong choice, it's not BABY MURDER's, or the government's choice to make. It's a woman's choice about her own body. Clearly, BABY MURDER is OK with the government pushing its ideals onto a woman to override her own ideals, but I'm not.

If the Department of Health really wants to take surveys of abortions in Oklahoma, it should be on a volunteer basis. It seems like a registration to me. Maybe in an addendum, the legislature could add that these women also must wear a yellow star on their chests? Because that's how it starts, right?

A woman's guilt, or lack thereof, is her own business and not that of a government or any other person.
I think it's very condescending to assume that a woman who has made a choice to abort a pregnancy isn't already informed.

I believe that if a woman wants an abortion, she should be able to make the decision on her own. If a woman doesn't want to abort, she doesn't have to. No matter how unfit of a mother she might be, she isn't harassed by groups who think she is making the wrong choice, so why is the other woman harassed?

Jim
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:34
Dear Cool story bro, and call it what it is,

Yes, the bill explicitly states that care will be taken secure the patient's identity, but the truth is, if you look over the long, detailed list of questions, anyone living in a small town could easily be identified by anyone who kind of, sort of knows them. Also, while some of the questions seem to make sense from a statistical point of view, a number of them are totally frivolous and can only contribute to deducing someone's identity. So, though the bill presents itself as being in good faith, the actual questions are quite problematic.

Call it what it is, BABY MURDER
Wed Nov 4 2009 15:25
First, the privacy of the woman is explicitly preserved by the language of the bill.

Secondly, anyone who thinks an ultrasound is nearly as invasive as most abortion procedures is ignorant. This is far less invasive than a pap smear and is a regularly performed procedure on pregnant women or women with potential pregancies (to determine that a viable pregnancy exists, as opposed to atopic, etc.).

Finally, guilt is not induced, it is one's personal response to the information in hand. Over 80% of women who have an abortion feel some amount of remorse or depression following. This allows women to have the information ahead of time and make a truly informed "choice" about life or death.

A mother with a conscience should feel guilty about murdering a baby. What's sad is the people who perform these cruel routine procedures have no apparant conscience. A Planned Parenthood administrator recently resigned when she saw a fetal response to abortive procedures via ultrasound.

Cool story bro
Wed Nov 4 2009 14:38
Perhaps a look at the actual legislative language would be prudent? I would hope you find limiting research to huffingtonpost and thinkprogress superficial and inadequate. Your propensity for stratagem is laughably the same incompetence casting a terminal prognosis for the very field you wish to subscribe. The bill explicitly states that the information that will be "posted online", to the OK Dept. of Health, will be statistical in nature and not allow any information that will be indentifiable. I only hope to encourage your cultivation of responsible journalism, because the diversification of information outlet sources will require adaptation. Namely, the remission of the premise that a journalists "message" is in anyway perceived as or affixed to reality.
Aelfscine
Wed Nov 4 2009 12:16
And of course, this sets a really frightening precedent for whoever else we don't approve of. Will gays need to be 'registered?' Have their information publicly available so that counselors and/or thugs can come talk to them?

What other procedures are legal, but enough to get pilloried for?

Lindsay
Wed Nov 4 2009 11:33
I'm glad to see Oklahoma college students taking note of this. These bills are a dangerous invasion of privacy that is searching for a de facto way to abolish abortion. If the Pro-Lifers are really intent on overturning Roe, they need to find a better way that isn't sneaking it in under the table and masquerading as a public health survey. Intimidation is not the way to achieve the goal. It brings back the feelings from the early 20th century where women had to hide in alleyways and feel shame for their decisions about their own bodies. Be honest about intentions.






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