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Stillwater Mayor answers back

By Nathan Bates

Guest Columnist

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Published: Sunday, February 7, 2010

Updated: Sunday, February 7, 2010

A recent column in the O’Colly has sparked enough debate that I thought I would weigh in with a response to the petition and the article written about me.


The reasons the majority of those seeking to remove me from office are as follows: using the office for personal gain, asking a woman to expose herself, interfering with police and city staff and being publicly intoxicated throughout Stillwater.


As correctly pointed out, my fellow council member Darrell Dougherty is responsible for this latest attempt to oust me from office. He has even gone so far as to further smear me with items not listed on the petition through local Stillwater newspapers.


His initial petition, which forced the city to draw up an official petition, received more than 100 signatures. He uses these numbers as proof that everyone in Stillwater agrees with him. He stated publicly that the individuals who signed his petition are so important to him that if they were to have signed against him, he would have simply resigned.


I respect everyone’s ability to sign such a petition. I do not, however, think it fair to assume that if 1/25th of the individuals who voted in the last election sign a petition saying they aren’t happy that anyone should step down.


I will never value 100 “special” people over any other group in Stillwater.


I am not a Political Science major and I have never before been involved in politics until my current term in office.


I do know that it is impossible to please everyone. I campaigned on a very basic platform and have voted in a way to best carry that out. I have been defeated on most major ideas that I have brought to the city and that is OK.


If anyone thinks that I am ineffective as the Mayor then please come and attend a council meeting and find out what is really happening.


As for the noted allegations, sources quote Dougherty as saying there is 100 percent proof for all the allegations.


That is his opinion and he is entitled to it. He has proven nothing.


I say the only “evidence” ever offered was something mentioned at a school board meeting about me having access to the private suite at a high school game.


As a fellow college student, ask yourself, how often you have gone to the local Pioneer High School game, and what motivated you to do so? I was not there to use my office for access to the suite. I attended to show my support for our local team because that is what I felt I should do as the representative of the city.


Everything else mentioned is an evolution of the game where one person says something to someone and then they tell someone, and so forth.


Have the allegations been exaggerated to the point of ridiculousness? Of course.
Before this nonsense ends, I’m sure my opponents will label me as an international arms dealer using the Mayor title as a cover for black market deals.


This brings me to my final point.


Who am I?


I am like you. I am a student.


Yes, I’m probably older. Perhaps I have a little more experience and maybe I know different people, but at the end of the day, we have more in common than not.


I have stated time and again that my age and status as a student has made me more vulnerable to this type of unwarranted attack. Had I been 33 years old and running a business, people would not assume I’m getting drunk all over town.


In fact, Darrell Dougherty responded to similar allegations himself, arguing it is perfectly fine for him to patronize bars.


If I had been 50 and talking to an officer then it would be assumed I am in the right due to my age.


What I have done recently is go to class, try to meet new people, spend money at different food establishments around campus, grab Starbucks on the go while rushing to my morning class, watch a hypnotist in the student union, play Frisbee on the library lawn, leave my books at home, stay up the night before a test trying to study only to instead watch a movie, and pay huge rental costs for a place I don’t really like living in.


I’m not perfect and I have never said otherwise. I will never pretend to be better than anyone else and I certainly regret if anyone may have gotten that impression.


I have tried to help make this community a better place.


I have tried to create a more sustainable city, actively organized volunteers off and on campus to make a difference, and spoken at different student organizations and groups to inform people on how they can get involved.


You may not see it now but I am betting the majority of you visit OSU and Stillwater over the years after you graduate. Maybe it’s just to the occasional football game, but maybe one day you’ll retire here.


In any case get involved, get off campus, register to vote, and make a difference. I believe you deserve more, OSU. Contact me if you have a community project you are working on or if you have an idea you would like some help with promoting.


This is your city also.


Nathan Bates
Mayor, City of Stillwater

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22 comments

Anonymous
Sun Feb 28 2010 19:18
I have a hard enough time trusting my college-aged neighbors to be responsible and respectable enough to not have loud parties, leave trash out, or drive through the yard. How could I trust a mayor to be responsible and respectable when he touts his collegiate status before his concerned citizen status? And yes, I am aware that there are plenty of local that have similar issues. However, the are in which I reside is predominately family, and overwhelmingly family oriented. Perhaps there should more strict housing ordinances, not someone in office looking to weaken the city by lowering housing costs that pay the taxes to support this city. Renting students only pay sales tax; they do not pay property taxes.
A response
Tue Feb 23 2010 12:05
Here's what I have a problem with....just because someone says the mayor said something doesn't make it true. Also, there has been zero evidence of him being intoxicated around town. Again...hearsay. I find it depressing that so many people in Stillwater are believing a bunch of jr. high gossip. The mayor has apologized if he overstepped with the officers, but I do not think it is overstepping for a citizen to point out possible safety issues to an officer. I think we should all refrain from spreading gossip that we do not know to be 100% true. Even Dougherty has changed the "facts" several times (check his latest letter to the editor in the Newspress and see if you can find the changes and errors in his statements).
J
Fri Feb 19 2010 16:18
Mayor Bates, You thought fighting for your country was hard! You are going against a long standing corrupt beast of politicians that have controlled, used, and abused the city for way too long. Their joined fight against you is to regain their stronghold on the city as you are challenging them. Don't be afraid to take control! If you want to take control, use the elements around you and forces available to you. Think jungle warfare. Expose ALL of their own mistakes, and how to continually vote against your attempts to move the city forward. These corrupt individuals in power must be removed from the system in order to get Stillwater into the 21st century. The days of the good old boys running the town and doing as they please should be long in the past. In recognizing this, Stillwater has elected YOU to challenge these individuals to step down from the long controlled points of power. Any one of these individuals has already taken more advantage of the city than they could ever accuse you of doing! As far as drinking goes, I think you should get ‘Party Pics’ to dough up the goods on these idiots. Photos have already started surfacing of Dougherty being heavily under the influence of alcohol in public! I have stood side by side with you before. Although I have graduated and moved on from Stillwater, know that I still believe in your ability to never give up, and to declare war with these idiots. Remove the good old boys from their throwns! It is time Stillwater has a police department, a court house, a city council, and a Mayor that all stand side by side to argue the issues of moving the city forward! Fortunately, we have at least one of those now!
Anonymous
Fri Feb 19 2010 16:17
Mayor Bates, You thought fighting for your country was hard! You are going against a long standing corrupt beast of politicians that have controlled, used, and abused the city for way too long. Their joined fight against you is to regain their stronghold on the city as you are challenging them. Don't be afraid to take control! If you want to take control, use the elements around you and forces available to you. Think jungle warfare. Expose ALL of their own mistakes, and how to continually vote against your attempts to move the city forward. These corrupt individuals in power must be removed from the system in order to get Stillwater into the 21st century. The days of the good old boys running the town and doing as they please should be long in the past. In recognizing this, Stillwater has elected YOU to challenge these individuals to step down from the long controlled points of power. Any one of these individuals has already taken more advantage of the city than they could ever accuse you of doing! As far as drinking goes, I think you should get ‘Party Pics’ to dough up the goods on these idiots. Photos have already started surfacing of Dougherty being heavily under the influence of alcohol in public! I have stood side by side with you before. Although I have graduated and moved on from Stillwater, know that I still believe in your ability to never give up, and to declare war with these idiots. Remove the good old boys from their throwns! It is time Stillwater has a police department, a court house, a city council, and a Mayor that all stand side by side to argue the issues of moving the city forward! Fortunately, we have at least one of those now!
Anonymous
Fri Feb 19 2010 12:01
Here is what I have a problem with...asking a woman to expose herself , which is police documented...just b/c he wouldn't admit to it doesn't mean its not true. I don't want a pervert running our town. Interfering with Police is a big deal, I know many of the hard working Police officers in this town as I am related to one and they are honest men and so if they tell me you were interfering in Police business then I have to say I believe them over a kid whose trying to cover his butt. Also, I am sorry if you are mayor of a town conduct yourself in an honorable and respectable way which means not getting hammered at bars!!!!! People are everywhere watching and I am sorry one who is getting plastered in public is not someone I trust nor look up to!
Works in the Arts
Tue Feb 16 2010 13:46
I appreciate the honesty in his response. Working in the arts I know that Mr. Bates has made efforts to propel Stillwater’s artistic community forward. I grew up in Stillwater and am very familiar with the group circulating the petition. I have also had the pleasure of getting to know Mr. Bates and between the two there is absolutely no validity to the petition. It is a huge waste of Stillwater’s resources.
Nathan Bates
Fri Feb 12 2010 19:34
Dear anonymous,

What campus initiative have I supported? Unless you are specifically saying that the platform I ran on should no longer be part of my focus I have no idea what you are referring to. Please post here or email me at Mayor@stillwater.org so I can address that concern

bleedinorange
Fri Feb 12 2010 11:04
I re-read the Mayor's letter and don't see where he was using age discrimination as an excuse for anything. He simply stated that his age made him more vulnerable to some accusations. Darrell had his own problems with the council when newly elected until he found his place among them. To say that the previous mayor used his office for personal benefit "as well" would indicate that Mayor Bates has in some way benefited from his time in office. Anyone who thinks what he has been put through is a benefit should step up and help themselves to the fun. I for one am glad my job hasn't provided me with these type of 'benefits". It appears to me, the Mayor is not trying to be the "voice of the students". He just feels they should be considered in matters that affect them. Is he wrong?
Anonymous
Thu Feb 11 2010 13:12
Mr. Bates,
You are my age. I am not a student. I am married with a child and am employed in Stillwater. You are a student and have served your country. Both continuing your education and serviving your country are things I applaud.
However, yes, there are things that have been addressed that are of issue with citizens. Our previous mayor had issues with using his position to further himself personally as well, albeit, in a sexual manner. He too was ousted from this position. To claim age discrimination (Mr. Dougherty is only a few years your senior and was at one point a loyal supporter of yours) is ridiculous. Furthermore, to assume these attacks are based on your student status are likely not true. It is your lack of supporting the city in issues beyond the long-arm of OSU.
As an OSU alum that continued to stay in Stillwater, I do realize the impact OSU has on our community. I have also been in this community long enough to know that the mayor needs to listen to and represent the voice of the community. If you would like to represent the voice of the students you should participate in OSU's student government on campus.
Anonymous
Tue Feb 9 2010 16:23
The only reason he is being scrutinized is because he is young... But so what??? I have so much respect for someone so young wanting to do good things for our community!!!

And whatever he does in his personal life.. is exactly that... If he wants to go out to a bar.. if he wants to drink alcohol.. it is completely legal..

I think the whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.. and I may have not voted last election, but by George if this actually comes up for a vote to take him out of office, and I will vote against it.

People need to grow up, and I would like to see who has the right to throw the first stone.. What matter is that he does his job and he makes decisions and does the best that he can for our community.

Joan Tyler
Tue Feb 9 2010 10:23
I read the well-written letter by the Mayor of Stillwater and then I looked over and saw the editorial cartoon, which was less than complimentary. I guess that goes in the category of "No good deed goes unpunished."

Students, this man made a campaign promise to YOU to work for decent, affortable student housing. His vote for that in opposition to the rest of the city council is the cause of much of this recall action. The blue-bloods who have run Stillwater forever do not like it when someone crosses them. I am so puzzled that students find it so much easier to make fun of someone who has kept their campaign promise than to support him.

I am just amazed and so, so disappointed.

bleedinorange
Tue Feb 9 2010 07:16
The "voting right" was exercised last April. A recall petition is an attempt to nullify and negate the vote of the 2560 votes cast in a a legitimate election. Stillwater's recall process is a flawed local ordinance that will face legal challenges when filed. The "right" of the petition is granted only locally and is subject to scrutiny by both state and federal election laws.
CT (cause I view things backwards)
Mon Feb 8 2010 22:50
how is a petition a voting right? Isn't a "vote" by definition the only "voting right"?
TR
Mon Feb 8 2010 19:01
I know Mr. Bates personally as well, and I and many others could cite evidence of using his title for gain, etc. Alex, your comment is hilarious but dead-right.
For anyone who says this isn't how democracy works, think again. This is a perfectly legal action under the city charter and those petitioning against the Mayor are exercising a voting right.
A Little Sense
Mon Feb 8 2010 17:33
I know Mr. Bates personally. At NO time has he ever used his title for personal gain in my presence. Not once. So I'm not inclined to believe ANY of the rumors because there are some that I know for sure to be false. Rumors breed rumors breed rumors. And sadly the more people talk, the bigger the rumors get...didn't we learn anything from the games we played as kids?
One of the comments below stated that Mr. Bates has failed to take responsibility for any of his actions. That is untrue. He has admitted that he could have handled the police situation differently (the only incident that has any real evidence in my opinion). Would you have him take responsibility for actions he did not commit? Would you have him stay inside his apartment all day long?
I think it's time that we take responsibility for our own tongues and stop spreading rumors that we do not know to be true (that means you saw it with your own eyes or heard it with your own ears). Just because someone tells you it's true doesn't make it true...I think we should have learned that lesson from Junior High.
Student resident
Mon Feb 8 2010 15:51
This makes no sense. First someone says that they want to sign because they don't like the mayor. Then someone else says that the rumors are enough to make you question him. Does anyone know what to believe? Enough with the garbage.
Stillwater Citizen
Mon Feb 8 2010 15:22
I find it disheartening that not only we placed in office a man that was not equipped for the position but as well have given him a leadership office without a support system. We are now aware of, as during the election, Mr. Bates inexperience as a leader and politician, why does he appear to have no guidance? Leadership is action, not position. Shouldn't we question those in power if they have numerous allegations against them? I feel the numerous allegations are enough basis for the public to question his abilities to hold office. How can we stand and continue to listen to the Mayor state that everyone is lying him and his actions? We have heard several statements about the Mayor's actions and he has yet taken any responsibility for them. I can see the possibility of denying one or two actions but when Stillwater citizens, Stillwater city police, and the Stillwater Superintendent are willing to stand against the Mayor I begin to question his word. He represents Stillwater. If he fails we fail, if he flourishes we flourish! Do we sit still and let things continue to crumble or move forward and do something? I don't have the solution but I believe it is apparent that something has to be done.
Just a Thought
Mon Feb 8 2010 13:53
I find it interesting that someone would openly admit that the petition is just a way to get someone they don't like out of office. That's not how a democracy should work ladies and gentlemen. If we allow this kind of "I don't like you" nonsense to continue in America we have a serious problem.
Nathan Bates
Mon Feb 8 2010 11:38
Alex,

Thanks for the response. Darrell is holding the petition at his place of business (Boyer's 66) at 6th and Main. As for the office, that hasn't been mentioned since the first half of 2009. Saying I haven't really accomplished much would really need to be spread to the entire council if I am just one of five votes. I am not sure what I should be accomplishing without the rest of the council and councilor Dougherty has even stated that they are carrying more of the load than I... who do you blame then if things aren't getting done? I do appreciate you admitting that people are trying to sign the petition not for reasons listed but because they don't like me. As for the campaign promise of trying to work on better student housing, are you suggesting that I simply ignore that promise and act like that wasn't part of the platform I ran on? I prefer that elected representatives actually do what they say vs. cater to special interest groups after being elected.

Alex Davis
Mon Feb 8 2010 11:27
Mr. Mayor,

I think you are getting this whole situation all wrong. These accusations aren't the reason that no one likes you, they are just a legal mean of getting you removed from office. There are a lot of reasons why no one likes you. You aren't really getting anything accomplished in Stillwater. I have done an interview with you before and you openly admitted ignoring thousands of signatures from residents and 100+ people that showed up to the meeting, to attempt to keep a campaign promise (off-campus housing) that no one really cares about. You also refuse to stop whining about not having an office. Get over it Mr. Mayor. You don't have to hide your documents from your roommate. If he really wanted access to them, he would go down to the public records office and obtain them legally. Those are just some of the reasons that you aren't our favorite mayor ever. Don't worry, I haven't signed the petition. I haven't been able to find a copy to sign.







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