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President Obama lacks the will to win

Forum Columnist

Published: Sunday, November 29, 2009

Updated: Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:11

Imagine the possibility that a man who plotted at least five terrorist attacks, served in al-Qaida’s hierarchy and killed untold thousands was placed on trial in New York City while receiving the same privileges and protection afforded to every U.S. citizen.


So stands the case of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.


The 9/11 Commission labeled him the primary architect of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Now, the man directly responsible for 2,973 American casualties returns to the scene of his most heinous crime.


The expected media frenzy will only encourage grandstanding from Mohammed and his compatriots as the trial will likely receive as much publicity as the OJ Simpson murder case.


When a judge told him that he faced certain death if convicted, Mohammed told the court, “Yes, this is what I wish, to be a martyr for a long time. I will, God willing, have this, by you.”


President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, in their infinite wisdom, made the decision to try him against a backdrop of intense public scrutiny. As opposed to a speedy, efficient, and most importantly, quiet, military tribunal, Mohammed will have his martyrdom.


This sort of decision epitomizes Obama’s approach to foreign affairs and specifically the war on terror.


When he’s not busy blaming his predecessor for every problem America faces or coming up with a politically correct synonym for terrorism. Obama enjoys groveling at the feet of the world’s monarchy. It seems in his free time, he works hand-in-hand with Holder to castrate this country’s intelligence gathering capabilities for political gain.


The same man who claimed that Cambridge police acted “stupidly” earlier this year when they arrested Henry Louis Gates for disorderly conduct told Americans not to jump to conclusions about Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan for the Fort Hood massacre. This represents one of Obama’s finer examples of hypocrisy.


Holding hands and chanting, “Yes we can!” might work with gullible, short-sighted American voters will have absolutely no effect on mass murderers.


The very same culture that produces men like Mohammed also danced in the streets following the 9/11 attacks. That ideology believes in stoning women to death after they report a rape. One cannot show compassion to this fundamentalist Islamic dogma, which finds no problem in using innocent women and children as human shields.


If Obama cannot summon the will to call these radicals “enemy combatants,” how can the U.S. succeed in this dire struggle?


Men like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed deserve immediate and violent retribution, not political correctness. These individuals deserve, dare I say, “enhanced” interrogation, not the lofty and impractical ideals of what liberals consider human rights. Terrorists deserve outright destruction, not a civilian trial that affords them the same rights as Americans.


At what point will Obama demand terrorists receive their Miranda rights before the military places them under arrest? That is the next logical step in Team Obama’s already asinine and naïve approach to the global war on terror.


Shame on Obama and his administration for giving Mohammed his greatest desire in the form of martyrdom. And, shame on him for lacking the fortitude necessary to win a life-or-death struggle against the tenets of radical, fundamentalist Islam.


Shane is an economics junior.

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18 comments

Hatim Hegab
Thu Jan 21 2010 05:57
The article starts with this: "Imagine the possibility that a man who plotted at least five terrorist attacks, served in al-Qaida’s hierarchy and killed untold thousands was placed on trial in New York City while receiving the same privileges and protection afforded to every U.S. citizen."
As a man of science I could not read more! simply because of the contradiction in this paragraph. (1) The writer admits that the convict is a man, that is a human being, and he wants to deprive him of hiss rights as a human being no matter what he did. This is America and human rights should be respected. Now, human rights for who, the terrorist? I give this answer, human rights are for this man and also for those victims of the terrorist attacks. As a civilized society as should never allow them to make us abandon our morals. (2) The writer, then, claimed that he plotted the terrorist act even before the court decides on this matter. We all know, from media reports, that he is accused of this crime, but as far as I understand things, once this case is in the hands of the judiciary system, we have to wait for the verdict. The convict is always innocent unless convicted with a court verdict. Even then, we should wait, till the verdict is final. I am not defending the man, I am here talking about the morals and values of our society. (3) Now comes a very strange point which I could not believe my eye when I was it! The writer's point of view is that the man should not be tried and exercise his rights of having a fair trial, not because of his sympathy with the victims, but because he is not American! What a mentality!
hope
Fri Dec 11 2009 17:25
tim campbell- please provide a source for your numbers - 190 terrorists tried since 9/11. I have senn this several times, but I want to validate the info.
Zhenya
Wed Dec 2 2009 15:24
Shane,
Thank you for writing this article, it's about time someone did. Giving terrorists a public trial and reading them Miranda rights is just ridiculous. As far as I know the Constitution says that American citizens have a right to fair trial, I don't recall it saying anything about radical terrorist bastards like Mohammed. For everything he has done even torture would be to light of a punishment. Mohammed should even be considered a human, because a normal human being wouldn't knowingly kill thousands of innocent people. These kind of actions by O'Bama make the United States look weak therefore showing terrorists that they can get away with a lot of stuff, what we need to do is exterminate every terrorist we can find, that will show the other ones what the consequences of messing with the United States are.
LP
Tue Dec 1 2009 23:58
You're right. This is just another guise to weaken America's intelligence--and give the chance for Obama to remind everyone he's not Bush. I don't like Bush, but I dislike Obama more in this instance for using him to hide behind. Great article!
Your name
Tue Dec 1 2009 23:56
I really enjoyed this and wholeheartedly agree. Thanks for being unafraid to take a stand.
Your name
Tue Dec 1 2009 23:08
@ Stacy
"Did he mean we can change everything about America until it is no longer America anymore. Well, he may actually succeed with that, and I am scared to death."
This article is about the Obama administration's decision to try suspected terrorists in civilian courts, and that practice is not in any way new. In fact, the Obama administration's decision to bring these heinous individuals before a court of law to face justice--instead of locking them up indefinitely or executing them without a trial, as the author of this piece and a shameful amount of posters to this site seem to favor--is a return to the rule of law and is quite profoundly American.

your name @ Dec 1 2009 20:59
"A Muslim is a Muslim, they all read from the same book, the Qur'an. These people are demonic and very disturbed individuals."
Wow. Really? Way to lump over 1/6th of the world's population with the depraved acts of a very small and extraordinarily misguided portion of that population. I guess all Christians are Christians too, right? Stereotypes and over-generalizations are poor arguments and are counterproductive if we are serious about solving the difficult problems this country faces.

Red Booded American!
Tue Dec 1 2009 22:23
The only people comfortable with summary executions and indefinite detentions are those that cut the heads off of red blooded Americans. Our own people! This is whats wrong with todays society! We allow such things to happen.
Stacey
Tue Dec 1 2009 21:43
Great points.

I agree that Obama does lack the will to win. I would love to have another election and see how those short-sighted voters would vote now. I imagine 1/4 of the voters wouldn't even vote. It's a little late now, and we are stuck with him. We just have to go on from here. What did Obama mean anyway with "Yes we can"? Did he mean we can change everything about America until it is no longer America anymore. Well, he may actually succeed with that, and I am scared to death.

Really, what are they thinking with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? This trial is going to be drawn out and he will get what he wants - martyrdom. If this gets as much media coverage as the OJ Simpson trial, I just hope that the media would actually take some of the footage of the celebratory "dancing in the streets" by the Islamic culture and play it every time they show anything about the trial. It would keep people thinking about what that act of terrorism did to us and how their culture reacted.

Your name
Tue Dec 1 2009 20:59
Shane, Great Article and very well spoken. As usual, a few of the above comments are a little off base. The one that wants you to pick up the Qur'an and read it is just one of those idiots. That is exactly what they want is for people to study their so called Bible so they can brain wash us all. A Muslim is a Muslim, they all read from the same book, the Qur'an. These people are demonic and very disturbed individuals. Have we not learned our lesson as a society? Our justice system is CRAP! There needs to be a complete over haul of our Government and our justice system and we should start with our so called President that is so quickly becoming very unpopular. I do not share all the big fancy political words or the enthusiasm that those before me have spoken, however, I do have a little common sense and with what is happening in America today, we should all be ashamed.

God Bless and Keep up the good work.

tim campbell
Tue Dec 1 2009 13:35
Shane,
Your article contains a couple of misleading lines:
1. You claim that civilian trials for suspected terrorist are a new thing. Since 9/11 we have tried over 190 suspected terrorists in civilian courts. We have a long history of trying such people in civilian courts. For example, Ramzi Usef and "The Blind Sheik,"--the perpetrators of the first attack on the World Trade Center--are currently serving life sentences without the possibility of parole in federal prison.
2. Your assertion that military tribunals are "speedy, efficient, and most importantly, quiet," is plain wrong in this context. The military tribunal system set up by the Bush administration were not regularly constructed and were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court on several occasions. See Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. If the tribunals were as speedy and efficient as you claim, presumably the Bush administration would have tried KSM during the 7
years they held him.
3. You says that KSM and others deserve "enhance" interrogation techniques. He has. KSM was water boarded on 183 separate occasions. Furthermore, the "lofty and impractical ideals" that you ascribe to "liberals" are actually found in the U.S. Constitution.You should check it out. Its full of crazy liberal notions like due process!
4. There is no danger that suspected terrorists will be read Miranda rights on the battlefield. KSM is being given such rights because he committed a crime against civilians on U.S. soil. The Cole bombers are not being extended these rights because they attacked a military target outside of the U.S. Therefore, there is no danger that, as you claim, suspected terrorists on a foreign battle field will be given these right.
Finally, your call for "immediate and violent retribution" reeks of mob rule and evidences an utter disrespect for the rule of law. I'm baffled that a self-styled conservative patriot like yourself is so comfortable with summary executions and indefinite detentions.
Your name
Tue Dec 1 2009 04:30
Thank you Shane for your article.

Leave it to the emasculated American to define what will lead to cultural and diplomatic success as seen below. There is no historical rational or feasible condition ever forwarded by the left. In fact, every utopian society created or supported by the left has failed... miserably actually; usually beginning and ending in mass genocide. It is common practice for the left operate solely on emotional appeal; using figments of truths, having the appearance of solutions that never quite address the full extent of any perceived problem they are seeking to solve.

As a former democrat I am embarrassed by what seems to be a sweeping acceptance of leftist philosophy. How to spot a lefty? They generally have no respect for the military or confidence in their ability to do their job. Kind of like their view on the people working in the private sector... I digress. What happened to the party of Kennedy and Clinton?

For the ill-informed person below, a military tribunal is common in war, especially for terrorists. The modern terrorist, typically born of Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Afghanistan, are tried in military tribunals because they are not members of a legitimate army belonging to what would be considered a state. In almost every occasion, the accused have a host of charges built against them from their peers, military intelligence and many (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed) have admitted confidently of doing far worse. All this without a plea bargain. In the end, they receive the greatest honor to a radical Islamic warrior. Martyrdom. If they are proven innocent they are set free. Its that simple.

Civility as you should know is the perception of what is civil by a culture. Hopefully we are not so far removed from reality that it is suddenly civil to accept the deaths of thousands during 9/11. But not accept the standard of retribution our country exercised by declaring war on a global network of murderers.

What would you have Khadj.? Would you give reputed terrorists eager to spread their heartfeld message of hate and destruction a highly publicized pulpit for them to preach? You leftist fool. People like you love watching the steady decline of America's influence to inversely mirror the incline of competing nations. I refuse to define the democratic party by people like you, proudly accepting left leaning failure as being the new status quo.

Shane I appreciate your conservative views as an independent. The widely held leftist belief adopted from the sixties that "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together" is a nice n fluffy. However its freedom should not be entrusted to nations or radical religious states whose sole prerogative is to marginalize the United States and its influence in the world, only to improve their own. Its common sense for our sovereign nation. Not a piece of the emasculated political pie.

Khadijah
Tue Dec 1 2009 00:52
This article is so very wrong on so many fronts I hardly know where to start. But start I must for I am sick and tired of the radical right hijacking the concept of patriotism to cover their blatant ignorance and fear mongering.First, you complain about this individual being tried in an American court of law. You would rather him be tried by a military tribunal. Why? Do you have so little faith in the American justice system? If you have so little faith, why are you wasting your time writing about this one idiot, and not putting all your efforts towards achieving reform in a system which governs all of us? Do you think those of the military have no sense of due process, and that they will automatically reach the verdict you desire? If so you grossly insult the integrity of the men and women who serve on those tribunals.Second, you would have our government throw out the Bill of Rights whenever it suits your purposes. Our country was founded on principles for a reason. The Founding Fathers knew that things would arise which were not covered specifically within the Constitution, so they framed it in such a way that the guiding principles behind it would give wisdom to their descendants who faced those unknown circumstances. It is decidedly unAmerican to toss those rights to the wind just for the sake of perceived “security.” Since when have we become so yellow bellied that we must compromise our fundamental beliefs just because a handful of lunatics succeeded in their attacks? Yes, we must be vigilant, but if we throw away the very way of life we are trying to protect, why bother?Third, the hate mongering against Islam has to stop. The reasons behind Al-Qaeda and other similar groups has absolutely nothing to do with true Islam. Those groups twist Islam into something completely unrecognizable in order to brainwash young men into following their orders. Religious ruling (aka fatwa) after ruling has been issued by the clerics of all major schools of Islamic thought condemning terrorism. Even organized terrorist groups have denounced Al-Qaeda's methods and ideology, acknowledging that the killing of innocents, especially women and children, is forbidden in Islam (see the recent Jihad Code released by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group for example). Oh, and by the way, the stoning of women is nowhere in the Quran – that is a tribal code issue, not an Islamic one. If you are going to rail against something, at least get your facts straight. Furthermore, the alienation of the American Muslim community is nothing but sheer stupidity. What better guard have we than those who are in the mosques every day? Who better to spot a new face acting with suspicion or correct the twisted teachings of the so-called "radical? American Muslims are just that - American and Muslim. The American Muslim can be just as patriotic as any other American. In fact many new immigrants are often more so, recognizing the opportunities for prosperity and freedom here that would never be attainable in the countries of their heritage.Fourth, as mentioned by another poster, since when is torturing anyone an American principle? Have we fallen so far? We used to be the liberators, not the oppressors. Walk to far down that line and we will become the very thing we used to hate. Really, if someone has been in Gitmo for 8 years, what kind of “actionable intelligence” will he possess? In case after case, many of those held by our country as “enemy combatants” have been proven innocent when they finally have a fair trial. Yet realistically, what do you think their attitude towards the US will be? What about their friends, their families? Are we any more secure? Have we even acknowledged or addressed the very issues that cause people like Khalid Sheik Mohammed or Osama bin Laden to hate us in the first place? Do you even know why? Do you care? Maybe you should. Yes, these men are so far gone in their hatred of us that there is no redemption for them. For the young Palestinian child with no clean water to drink or the daughter of the Iraqi wrongly held for years, there is still a chance to change their perception of us. If we do not return to the shining beacon of light and justice that we once were, another generation of children will grow up with good reason to hate us. And do not presume to call me unAmerican. I wear a uniform every day and have served this country in areas of imminent danger and combat. My family has served in or during every major conflict that this country has engaged in over the past 400 years with the sole exception of the First Gulf War. The blood of my family is soaked into that flag, shed to preserve our freedom and our principles, not for some right wing radicals to continue fear mongering in the name of “patriotism.” It also preserves the right for all to practice our religion in peace without fear. For me, that religion is Islam – a beautiful path of peace that in no way conflicts with any fiber of my American being....
Your name
Mon Nov 30 2009 22:55
First of all Shane you are a great American and you article speaks to those of us that still are Americans to the core.

Second of all to the "grey patriot" Just because a terrorist kills thousands of people on our soil in nothing less than an act of war why should we give him a trial? Oh thats right he is a U.S. citizen because he was on our soil while planning and acting on his evil plans. It all makes sense now Hitler should never have killed himself because im sure our grandparents would have given him a fair trial after he killed 12million jews and millions more brave men fighting for our freedom. Following this theory why dont we just let all the crazy extremest Muslims into our country and say have at it. Torture is a tricky subject but lets put it all in perspective if you got arrested for terrorism in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia, or any other country do you think first of all you would be even alowed to live long enough for a fair trial?? In that case do you really think water boarding is all these friendly people would do to you?? Now catch your breathe "grey Patriot" because i dont think you have a brain either. Why would we want anything to be fair in the case of terrorism?? They where caught they should die a silent death with no chance for them to proclaim themselves martyrs which oh by the way has already happened at the pre-trial and here is a shock a trial is just what these guys want. What ever you "think" does not matter "grey patriot" because the public can see the truth unlike you. I dont think there is a way to fix what you think but i do know that your no patriot, and im definitely questioning whether you are even an American. I cannot argue with the fact that Obama is a complete and utter failure at least your not completely stupid. I would also like to point out that the bill of rights applying to terrorists that want nothing more than to destroy America makes me sick. To think of our founding fathers thinking the same way makes me laugh, or hell even our grandparents.

Maria Rolando Fitz a person not afraid to use your actual name very good. I would like to reference my previous statement about Hitler and apply it to this situation. Would you say the same thing if we where to go back and give Hitler a full American trial?? I mean come on he was not even a terrorist, he fought a completely normal conventional war aside from his killing of Millions of Jews and minorities. If your thinking that it would be unAmerican not to then i question if you know what America really stands for? Civics is taught in universities today but not the civics i grew up with college teachers profess for the most part tolerance, and every body loves each other and we should be fair to terrorists, this is not what i believe in nor what my parents or grandparents believed in. Civility is practiced on the civil not people that kill thousands of Americans and say YAY look at what we did!! Common sense would say immediate execution for people that threaten our way of life but common sense is gone instead replaced by "political correctness" and human rights, when the terrorists would like nothing more than destroy everything we hold dear.

In the end what do I know according to both of these people im A barbarian, extremest, unAmerican, and possibly dangerous. I find myself wondering if our country will ever survive with such miserable people in it. If we thought like this during WWII we would have been throughly thrashed by both the Germans and the Japs. I fear the day when due to our political correctness, socialistic society we as Americans become something less than Americans. This is a wake up call first we give trials to Terrorists whats next shooting sunshine bullets at our enemies, giving them hugs as the kill thousands more of us?? No i refuse to think we as Americans will let that happen. I would give my life for this country but i would never die for this president or even this current diluted version of American. Lets bring back the real America of at least our grandparents American

Yours Truly
Nathan Nelson
Oklahoma State University Secondary Education Major

American
Mon Nov 30 2009 17:23
Most Americans learned what we need to know about Islam on 9/11/2001!
aaa
Mon Nov 30 2009 16:33
Ahhhhhhh, Shane.
Your words are full of hatred and generalization.
I suggest you pick up some books about Islam from the library before writing your columns.
It helps prevent lying about other cultures.
Patriot who thinks
Mon Nov 30 2009 10:01
Thanks again Shane for a well written article. It seems the other commentors seem to misunderstand our constitution as it applies to POW of foreign wars. We will soon have a chance see why affording POW's the full protections of our constitution, and allowing them a civilian criminal trial is a huge mistake.

Your point about "mirandizing" every enemy soldier captured on the battlefield is well taken, and it will only be a start.

Patriot with grey matter
Mon Nov 30 2009 01:40
While your article is well written and we can share a dislike for the presidents abilities and actions, I cannot get behind you on a couple of points.
number one...
All rights that are afforded to people on american soil are given by "Their Creator" and are not removable by any government. These rights cannot be stripped from any human as they are not given by the government and therefore not to be taken away by the same government. This is to ensure that the government does not do the same to YOU and more importantly ME. If you will allow another human to be placed under "enhanced interrogation" then you must allow for every human to come to the same fate. (this includes you, your family, me, and mine as well. I say no thanks. Our laws were written to protect the innocent from such atrocities at the cost of allowing any number of guilty walk away free. This means it is better to let 100 guilty people get away than to torture or wrongly incriminate one innocent person. This is American, you may not be.
Now to the next point.
Please stop supporting the patriot act and illegal power grabs by the administration.
The term enemy combatants comes from illegal and very unsafe legislation that can also be used on you as well as anyone else. Your ignorance and support of something That removes due process from America is very telling about your lack of knowledge on the subject.
If you think a human is not to be given due process then why would you care if due process was taken from you, or even worse again me?
You seem to be incapable of using your brain to see that what is good for the goose is indeed good for the gander.
To what seems to be your strongest point... Martyrs are still dead thus removing any future threat and applying the toughest form of justice any American can get behind.
The problem with your cries for a military tribunal is that we the people cannot see this justice being performed and we can also not ensure it was done fairly.
And what if they have the wrong guy? Do you think a military tribunal would admit to the public if they did? Do you think if this guy turned out to be innocent he would get a fair trial and be acquitted?
Whatever you "think" doesnt really matter its what the public can "see" that does matter.
Im not sure theres any way to fix what is wrong with your thinking, but I am at least with you on the fact that obama is weak and inexperienced and possibly not even eligible to be the president.
I just cant get behind your misguided attempts to further erode our bill of rights.
Maria Rolando Fitz
Mon Nov 30 2009 01:21
"Men like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed deserve immediate and violent retribution"

This sentiment is extremely unAmerican not to mention entirely un-Christian and even anti-Christian.

Isn't civics taught in the University any more?

Isn´t civility practiced now?

Has common sense and human decency been replaced
in the American lexicon by such barbaric howls for revenge?







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